i put these on a JL rubicon for a trip to Moab. i ran trails at night that felt moderately safe with high beams... then turned these things on. they'll strip paint. they'll give your kids permanently orange hair. they'll make your retinas cry for mama.legit, these things are insanely bright. USELESS in town and asking for a discussion with the police. but in rural areas, isolated country roads, etc, i don't see how you'd want more. they're insane. i want more.... but clearly don't need it.